Vacuum sealer questions??? - Yoder Smokers Community Forum

There are really three basic types: internal, "chamber" sealers (like Ultravac or vac master), external, "clamp" type sealers (like most FoodSaver models), and portable, typical handheld, retractable nozzle types (in which you often attach a handheld suction pump to a vacuum suction port on a special bag).

Chamber sealers are the "yoders" (I.e., Cadillacs, pinnacle,...) of the sealers and are used by restaurants, butchers and packaging companies but are typically too costly for most homes. Chamber sealers allow you to place the entire bag with food in it inside the sealer's chamber. A vacuum is drawn inside the entire chamber and the bag sealed while the chamber is under vacuum. Because the bag is inside the chamber, it's contents are not sucked out like they are in external clamp type systems, making them far more versatile than other types, because you can do wet foods like soups and marinated foods without the sealing process removing the liquids from the bag to achieve a vacuum. They also typically have much stronger piston style vacuum pumps and can draw much stronger, often user controlled vacuum strength pressures. They typically run well over $1,000 and are heavy and take up a good amount of counter space. Bags are not ridged and are relatively inexpensive.

With external clamp type sealers, you typically just insert the edge of a special channeled bag into the mouth of the sealer to seal it. If you want to draw a vacuum on it, it sucks as much air out as it can through the ridges in the bags but it ends up drawing liquids out of your bag too--not just air. These work fine for meat and fish and cheese, particularly when dry, but are difficult to use for wet items like soups and marinated proteins. The vacuum pump motors on most of these types of units are inferior to their chamber sealer big brothers and you will not be able to fully remove all the air from most of what you're sealing (though it's good enough for many applications). Additionally, the bags are costly.

I'm not going to spend time on the portable nozzle types.

To answer your question, there's what I want and what I have...I could not justify the 10x price difference between the Ultravac chamber sealer I want and the FoodSaver GameSaver model I have ( my 2nd FoodSaver.). I got the GameSaver because I got a great deal on it and it's vacuum sealing strength rating was superior to some of the more expensive FoodSaver units. None of the FoodSaver products work great on wet and marinated foods in my view so I really want a chamber sealer for both quality and functional reasons. For now, the GameSaver allows me to buy wholesale cuts of meat and cut them into useable home portions and freeze them safely without burning until we're ready to use them later. It's good for smoked items like leftover brisket or pulled pork and also works fine for cold smoked items like salmon and cheese. I have found that both FoodSaver sealers I've had do an "ok" job of removing air from the bags but not great. Definitely not commercial quality, but again they work ok for many of the things I do--they're just not as good as I'd like.

There are tons of these clamp type sealers out there and they can be tough to compare. If you can compare the strength of the vacuum they can pull and the bag sizes they can handle, these are the two most important features in my view. I personally find most of the other features to be gimmicks. Don't be fooled by "wet" sealing features on FoodSaver models. They still draw liquids out of the bags. After the bag sizes and pump strength, it's really cost and warranty.

Cabelas supposedly has some nice units but I have no direct experience with them. I got a good deal on my GameSaver by calling FoodSaver directly. I got it for much cheaper than I could have online or at Costco by going direct so it's worth a call.

Hope that helps a bit. You can definitely do some online research to learn more.

Good luck and let us know what you decide to buy.

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I own one of each type: a) VacMaster VP112 chamber vac/sealer, and b) VacMaster PRO305 suction vac/sealer. I use both, but I use the chamber vac most often. Why? It can handle liquids, and the bags are about 10% the cost of suction bags. I do a lot of sous vide cooking, and chamber vacs are much better suited to the kinds of things I like to eat.

Downsides of a chamber vac:

1) They're SLOW.
2) They're BIG.
3) They're EXPENSIVE. (to begin with)

If I'm doing a high-volume bag job, I go with the suction vac if it works with the contents. Much quicker. The only downside to the quickness is that I've burned through a few bags sealing them because the sealing element stays hot (a quick wipe-down with a damp cloth works great, IF you can get to the sealing element (like you can on the PRO305)).

That said, the PRO305 is in a cabinet and the VP112 is on my kitchen counter next to my Sous Vide Supreme.

If you can afford the list price of the VP112 ($699), you won't regret it. The PRO305 lists at $299, a heck of a lot more than a FoodSaver, but built and works like a tank. Awesome piece of kit.

One comment on the newer FoodSavers (models starting with a '3' or a '4') have have the auto-sensing feature...

It does work, but you need to pay careful attention to the orientation of the bag when you insert it (the bag must curl down, not up, and then sometimes you still need to play with it). I gave my FoodSaver to a friend when I bough the VacMaster.

One comment on bag cost...

Suction bags cost in the neighborhood of $0.20 each, where the chamber bags are a much more reasonable $0.02 to $0.03 each. If you do a lot of bagging like I do, you'll start recovering the cost of a chamber vac very quickly.

One final comment on the VP112...

One nice little extra feature is the inclusion of a suction port. I kept the suction gizmo you can get from FoodSaver for sucking the resealable zip bags. Works GREAT with the VP112. I use it mostly for resealing bacon.

If your requirements for bagging are light, you'll probably find it very difficult to justify the cost of either VacMaster. But...they are real, heavy-duty tools. Can't say the same for the FoodSavers of the world.

In this ultimate guide, we will explore everything you need to know about vacuum cleaner dust bags, from understanding their role to how you can maintain and choose the best one for your vacuum. Dust bags play a vital part in keeping your vacuum at its best, ensuring efficient cleaning, and maintaining healthy air quality in your home.

We will start by explaining why dust bags matter and the benefits they bring, not just for your vacuum, but also for your indoor environment. Next, we will walk you through the different types of dust bags, including disposable, reusable, and HEPA options. Then, we will guide you on how to properly clean and maintain your vacuum bag to keep it working like new. We will also cover common misconceptions about vacuum bags and give you tips on how to choose the right one based on your needs.

Finally, we will discuss alternative options to traditional vacuum bags and answer frequently asked questions to help you make informed decisions. Let’s get started!

What Are Dust Bags and Why Are They Important?

Dust bags are essential parts of vacuum cleaners. They gather dirt, dust, and debris while cleaning, stopping them from going back into the air and keeping the vacuum working its best. Without a dust bag, debris might harm the vacuum's motor, lower suction, and hurt indoor air.

Next, we’ll explore the benefits of using a dust bag, including how they contribute to hygiene, odor control, performance, and the longevity of your vacuum.

Benefits of Using a Dust Bag

Using a vacuum cleaner that has a dust bag gives a few benefits:

• Hygiene: Dust bags trap allergens, dirt, and dust, preventing them from being released into the air, which is essential for a healthier home.
• Odor Control: A new dust bag gets rid of smells from trapped debris, making vacuuming nicer.
• Performance: Taking care of the dust bag keeps your vacuum's suction strong.
• Vacuum Longevity: Keeping the dust bag in shape eases the motor's load, making the vacuum last longer.

Types of Dust Bags for Vacuum Cleaners

In this section, we will focus on the different types of dust bags available for your vacuum cleaner. We’ll explore how dust bag materials and their designs can affect vacuum performance and their suitability for different cleaning needs.

Types of Dust Bags Based on Material

The material of the dust bag plays a critical role in determining its effectiveness, durability, and suitability for different cleaning tasks. Here's a look at the most common types:

• Disposable Paper Bags: They're the most typical and easy-to-use kind. They are inexpensive, easy to replace, and commonly found in standard home vacuums. However, they are not the most eco-friendly option since they are designed for one-time use. If you need a quick solution for everyday cleaning, these bags are ideal.
• Reusable Cloth Bags: Made from durable fabric, these bags can be emptied and washed for repeated use. They are a more environmentally friendly option, especially for those looking to reduce waste. However, they require regular cleaning to ensure the vacuum continues to perform well. These are great for households that want a longer-lasting, eco-friendly option.
• HEPA Bags: HEPA bags catch really tiny particles, like dust mites, pollen, and other allergens. These bags are great for homes with allergy sufferers since they trap small particles that standard bags could miss. HEPA bags are highly effective in improving indoor air quality and keeping the home free from microscopic dust.
• Heavy-Duty Dust Bags: These are designed for industrial and commercial vacuums. These bags, made from tough, lasting materials, can manage big amounts of debris and fine dust without tearing or blocking. They're great for cleaning big spaces, like workshops or construction sites, where heavy cleaning is needed.

Kinds of Dust Bags by Design

The dust bag's design affects how well it works. Different vacuum cleaner models use varying designs depending on the needs of the user:

• Bags with a Self-Sealing Mechanism: These bags automatically seal when removed from the vacuum. This feature prevents dust and debris from spilling out when you dispose of the bag, offering a more hygienic solution. It's an excellent feature for people who want to minimize contact with dirt during disposal.
• Bags with a Flap Closure: This is a traditional design where the bag is manually sealed by closing a flap. While not as advanced as self-sealing bags, they are still commonly used in many older vacuum models. They are simple and reliable but require extra care to avoid dust leakage.

How to Clean and Maintain Vacuum Cleaner Dust Bags

In this section, we’ll guide you on how to clean and maintain your vacuum cleaner dust bags. We'll walk you through the process of cleaning reusable dust bags, how to recognize when your dust bag needs to be replaced, and how to properly replace a full or damaged bag. Proper maintenance ensures your vacuum performs at its best and lasts longer.

Cleaning Reusable Dust Bags

Cleaning a reusable dust bag is easy, but it is necessary to keep your vacuum performing at its best. Here’s how to do it:

• Switch off and unplug the vacuum: Make sure the vacuum's off before touching the dust bag.
• Remove the dust bag: Open the compartment and carefully remove the dust bag. Bring it outside to prevent dust from spreading inside.
• Empty the bag: Shake the bag gently to remove most of the dirt. If needed, tap it against a hard surface to loosen stubborn debris.
• Wash the bag: Use warm water and mild detergent to clean the bag. A gentle brush can aid in taking off any dirt left in the fabric.
• Wash and dry: Wash well to get rid of all soap. Hang the bag in a breezy spot to dry fully before putting it back in the vacuum.
• Inspect the bag for damage: Check for any tears or holes. Replace a torn bag right away to keep dust contained well.

Signs That Your Dust Bag Needs to Be Replaced

Even reusable bags will need to be replaced eventually. Here are some signs that it’s time for a new one:

• Less suction: If the vacuum's not cleaning well, the bag might be full or blocked.
• Bad smells: A dirty or full bag can start to stink, especially with pet hair or food bits.
• Damage seen: Look for tears or holes in the bag. A damaged bag lets dust out, so replace it.
• Frequent clogging: If the dust bag is getting clogged often, it may no longer be functioning properly and needs to be replaced.

How Often Should You Replace a Dust Bag?

Typically, you should replace the dust bag when it’s about two-thirds full to maintain the best suction power. However, you may need to replace it more often based on your cleaning frequency and the type of debris you’re collecting. For example:

For pet owners, it may be necessary to replace the dust bag more frequently because of the accumulation of pet hair and dander.

In larger homes or for those who clean frequently, replacing the dust bag every 1-2 months is recommended to maintain optimal performance.

How to Replace Your Vacuum Cleaner Dust Bag

Replacing your vacuum cleaner’s dust bag is a quick and easy process:

• Turn off and unplug the vacuum: Always make sure the vacuum is off before handling the dust bag.
• Open the dust bag area: Find the area and open it to reach the dust bag.
• Take out the old bag: Gently remove the full dust bag, without spilling any dirt.
• Put in a new bag: Place the new dust bag in the area, making sure it fits tightly and seals well.
• Shut the area: After putting in the new bag, close the area and check that it's sealed properly.

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What to Look for When Buying Dust Bags for Your Vacuum Cleaner

Picking the correct dust bag for your vacuum is key for keeping it working well and your home clean. When getting a dust bag, think about your vacuum type, the bag's size and fit, its filtering ability, and if you want a reusable or throw-away one. Here, we'll help you pick the best dust bag for your needs.

Pick the Correct Kind of Dust Bag

The initial move is to think about your vacuum's type. Different vacuums require different types of dust bags, so it’s important to choose one that fits your model. For example:

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• Upright vacuums usually need larger bags, either disposable or reusable.
• Canister vacuums require smaller or differently shaped bags.
• Robot vacuums often use small dust bins or disposable bags, and it’s important to pick the right size to match your vacuum model.

Picking the correct type makes sure the vacuum works well, with good suction and no leaks.

Choose the Right Size and Fit

The dust bag's size and fit matter for good performance. A bag that fits right stops leaks and keeps suction strong. For example:

• For small homes or cleaning once in a while, A 1.5 to 2-liter dust bag should do.
• Larger homes or homes with pets: Consider a 3 to 4-liter bag, which holds more dirt and reduces the frequency of bag changes.

If you have a vacuum with a specific dust bag size requirement, make sure to check the manual for the correct fit. A good fit not only prevents dirt from escaping but also ensures that your vacuum continues to work at its best.

Filtration Performance

Some dust bags are made to clean the air during cleaning, which is key if someone in your home has allergies or asthma. For example, HEPA bags trap fine particles such as dust mites, pollen, and bacteria, improving the air quality inside your home.

If air quality is a concern, a HEPA bag is a smart choice. Regular dust bags will collect dirt but won’t filter the air as effectively. So, if you’re cleaning spaces with pets or allergens, a HEPA bag will help reduce airborne irritants and improve the overall indoor air quality.

Reusable vs. Disposable Bags

You’ll also need to decide between reusable and disposable bags. Here’s a quick breakdown:

• Reusable bags are eco-friendly and cost-effective in the long term, but they require regular cleaning and maintenance.
• Disposable bags are convenient and easy to replace, but they may cost more over time.

Think about your cleaning habits and how often you want to change the bag. If you don’t mind a little maintenance, reusable bags might be the best option. If you prefer convenience, disposable bags may be more suitable.

Common Misconceptions About Dust Bags

In this section, we’ll clear up some of the most frequent misconceptions, including when to replace the bag, whether any bag will fit your vacuum, and how to properly care for your dust bag and vacuum. Knowing the facts about these myths will help you use your vacuum better and make it last longer.

"You Just Have to Swap the Bag Once It's Full"

Lots of folks believe you should only change the dust bag when it's totally full. But, waiting till it's completely packed can damage your vacuum's work. Once the bag is about two-thirds full, it can block airflow and reduce suction. Replacing it earlier will help your vacuum run more efficiently and prevent strain on the motor.

"Any Bag Will Fit My Vacuum"

It’s easy to assume that any dust bag will fit your vacuum, but that’s not the case. Vacuums are designed to work with specific bag types and sizes. Using the wrong bag can lead to leaks, poor suction, and even damage to your vacuum. Always check your vacuum’s manual to make sure you’re using the right bag for the best performance.

"Vacuum Bags Are Just for Holding Dirt"

Dust bags do more than just hold dirt. Many modern bags, like HEPA bags, are designed to filter the air and capture fine particles like dust mites, pollen, and bacteria. If anyone in your household has allergies, using a HEPA bag can improve the air quality in your home. Standard bags won’t filter the air as effectively, so they’re not as ideal for people with respiratory issues.

"You Don’t Need to Clean the Bag Compartment"

It’s easy to forget about the bag compartment, but it’s important to clean it regularly. Over time, dust and dirt can pile up, hurting your vacuum's work and making bad smells. Clean the compartment with a wet cloth now and then to keep your vacuum good and stop dirt from leaking.

Conclusion

Picking the correct dust bag for your vacuum is key to keeping it working well. The right bag helps maintain suction, improve air quality, and extend your vacuum’s lifespan.

Make sure to replace the dust bag when it’s about two-thirds full. This prevents airflow blockages and keeps your vacuum working at its best. Always check the bag's size and fit for your vacuum, and choose one with good filtration, especially if you have allergies or asthma.

If you're using a Narwal vacuum, remember to use Narwal-compatible dust bags. Using incompatible bags can cause performance issues and damage your vacuum over time.

Have you been changing your dust bag at the right time? Are you using the right size and filtration for your vacuum? Small changes can make a big difference in how well your vacuum performs.

By following these simple tips, you’ll keep your vacuum in top shape, helping your home stay clean and the air stay fresh.

How Do You Clean a Vacuum Without a Bag?

To clean a bagless vacuum, first, remove the dust canister and empty it. Clean it with warm water and gentle soap, then let it dry fully. Clean the filters and brush rolls according to the manufacturer’s instructions.

What Should You Not Put in a Vacuum Bag?

Avoid putting liquids, sharp objects, and large pieces of debris in the vacuum bag. These can damage the vacuum or cause clogs, affecting its performance.

Can You Use a Vacuum Without a Dust Bag?

Yes, you can use a bagless vacuum. It has a dust canister instead of a bag, which collects the debris. Just empty the canister regularly and clean the filters for optimal performance.

What to Use Instead of a Vacuum Cleaner Bag?

If you prefer not to use a vacuum bag, consider a bagless vacuum. These vacuums use dust canisters or bins to collect debris, which you can empty and clean.

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